Well, I know that, uh, you could, you could really seriously kick my butt in the ring as your pro wrestler.

But I want to know if you're a good thumb wrestler.

Have you done this in a while?

Do you, do you remember how to do this?

Wait, wasn't it like, I declare a thumb war?

Yeah, one, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.

I'm just scared of you, honestly.

Red Nation, I have your queen right here on the Young Hollywood couch.

Natalie Eva Marie.

Nice to see you again.

Me too.

Can we talk about how I, like, kind of low-key stalked you on a plane one time?

I mean, if you want to say that, but I mean, I accidentally sat next to her on a plane, but that was the last time that we chatted.

Um, but I'm so happy that you're here.

You're so unlike your persona in the ring.

It's crazy.

Isn't it crazy?

It's crazy.

It is crazy.

I know.

Are people shocked when they, when they

They are.

I think that's the biggest thing that I get when I actually interact and meet with people outside of like WWE or that persona or that character, they're like, wait a minute.

But I'm like, you guys have to remember WWE is all a scripted show.

It's like a soap opera.

I just happen to play the bad guy.

You know?

So,

It's good to be bad though.

It is.

Everybody likes a bad girl.

Um, well, welcome.

And who, like, who is that?

Because like, yeah.

When did you go to the dark side?

Thank you.

I know.

This is brand spankin' new, super fresh.

It looks good on you.

I like it.

It's your natural hair color.

Thank you.

It is.

But my hashtag's all red everything, so I'm like, how do you feel?

How did fans react?

Okay, so far, I think the initial post that I, you know, put up with dark hair, it was like, oh my gosh, why?

Like, no, stay red, go back to red.

And then now the more that I'm posting with dark hair, I'm getting a lot of love, being like, stay dark, stay dark.

So, I mean, I, you know what I mean?

I see you on the same page already.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Uh, well, I did introduce you as the queen of Red Nation.

And you really are kind of building your own media nation.

You have your YouTube channel, you've got Instagram videos, so many followers on social media, and now you have a fashion line.

How did this even come about?

When did you know that you wanted to go into that world?

Well, I think like, even from like an early on age, I'm the youngest of all boys.

So my fashion, if we wanted to really like throw some major shade, you look at old photos and it would I would just have like hand-me-downs from all my brothers.

Cause I just really wanted to be one of the boys.

Then after, you know, college and then kind of, you know, feeling more comfortable in my own skin, I absolutely love fashion.

I just wasn't able to explore it how I want to.

So, then it just started with like an idea, and I have the best husband in the world because anything that I want to do, he's like, you can do it.

Let's do it.

You know?

And he's

That's so sweet.

I know.

And he's out there holding a phone for your social media.

Like, yeah, he's working for you.

I hope you pay him well.

I do.

I mean, he gets to lay down next to me every night, so I think that's

Right.

Okay, so that's payment enough.

Right?

I think so.

I think so.

I think that's fair.

And then, um, what's so great about the fashion line is a portion of the profits goes to, uh, my foundation, the NEAM Foundation that I just created with another woman, uh, Katrina Fischer, who owns her own gym.

And what that is is promoting, you know, uh, self-love, positive body image to a lot of girls, young.

Cause you've struggled with that as well, like very publicly.

Yes.

Exactly.

And so, does that come from your own private struggles?

Absolutely.

So it's one of those things where I feel now is the time for me to give back and share my experience, strength, and hope with other women.

And all that is is, you know, getting women to, to become together and have that camaraderie and just encourage one another.

Well, fitness is a huge part of your life.

It's a huge part of your brand as a, as a pro athlete, as a pro wrestler.

So, I'm curious because I would really like to have your body at some point.

Um, I'm wearing a parachute because I'm not quite there yet.

Uh, but, but I know you change up your workouts.

If you had to do one workout for the rest of your life, what would it be?

I do.

You know what, for my body type, I think I would have to say Pilates.

Because it's so easy on the on the joints.

Oh yeah.

Like anybody can do it.

And plus it's a good rehab for people that have, you know, certain injuries.

So it's a lot easier on the body.

CrossFit is is quite not only is it difficult, but not everybody can get in there and be an Olympic lifter, you know?

So I feel like Pilates is

It seems like a lot of work.

It is.

Yeah.

And it's like competitive, and I'm just like, I'd rather eat chips and just like watch.

Exactly.

There you go.

Um, what about when it comes to diet?

Like what's your, what's your favorite indulgence?

Cause I know you're a serious eater.

You and me, I'm such a foodie.

I mean, I'm Mexican-Italian.

So that's all we do.

Anything like, whether it's a death, whether it's a birth, whether it's just like food.

You're just, you're pretty much finding any excuse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

family, it doesn't matter.

Find any excuse.

I'm like, mom, come on.

You know?

It's just like, you're very much a, I grew up in a typical Mexican household, I like to say.

My mom was, you know, always in the kitchen, which is great.

So, food to me is like my love language.

It's funny my husband and I always talk about it because he's like, dude, you're a creep.

Like, every time I make you something, you want to like, you get all sweet to me.

And I'm like, I'm like, I don't know, well, at least you know it works for me.

Like, all you got to do is like, I'm with you.

Pay me in food.

Right?

Seriously, that's it.

But I'm

Yeah.

I'm telling you I'm getting tortillas from these guys later.

See?

Like chips and salsa.

Yeah.

Chips and salsa is definitely like a

Is that your indulgence?

It, well, I had to deny it the other night, which was hard, cause I was like staring at it.

That's hard, baby.

That's like tough.

And I'm an I have an addictive personality, so it's like, if I'm going in, I'm going in.

So I can't even have one.

I also get lucky because Jonathan's a really good cook.

So that's the thing too, is like we both are foodies.

So, I would say like, baked goods, sweets, desserts, carbs.

The good stuff.

Carbs.

Yeah.

Everything carbs is just like, come to momma.

Hashtag everything carbs.

Yeah.

Exactly.

I love it.

Well, I know that, uh, you could, you could really seriously kick my butt in the ring as your pro wrestler.

But I want to know if you're a good thumb wrestler.

Uh, yeah.

So I was gonna challenge you to a little thumb war.

Thumb wrestler.

Oh, a little thumb war.

That's what you got?

Yeah.

Do you mind?

Do you Is that okay?

You do you have you done this in a while?

Do you do you remember how to do this?

Wait, wasn't it like, I declare a thumb war?

Yeah, one, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war.

I'm just scared of you, honestly.

I'm like, you better I got.

I'm like, I'm like, nope, not today.

I'm like, not today.

And she still beat me.

Oh my gosh.

Natalie Eva Marie.

Yeah.

This is so nice.

It was so nice to see you again.

You too.

Small world.

Yeah, I know.

Let's go get some carbs.