I know it's in there. Here with Tom Ellis. How are you?

Hello. I'm very well, thank you.

You just came in. Just for this. I'm flying back straight after. So, um, Jerry Bruckheimer, who I like to call the Brucks. Bruckster. Executive producer on the show. Was he on set? Did he show up? Are you like this with him?

Never met him.

You Because he called you, I think I saw on the Fox website, he called you like dashing or or devilishly, which you are sort of, I mean, you are.

Thanks.

Literally on the show, not you seem lovely in person, but actors these days gain 30 pounds, lose 30 pounds.

I would love to get a job where they you have to put on loads of weight for it. That would be my dream.

Okay, so that's your dream.

That would be my dream.

What about like a 30 in six weeks? You got to gain 30 pounds because actors talk about it like it's the worst thing ever. What what was the worst thing about it? Like, basically they do it by drinking, I think Russell Crowe did it by drinking whiskey and eating donuts. This show, have you been seeing the posters and the promos?

Yeah, it's been kind of crazy actually. People have been sending me photos of billboards and whatnot, and it's been, yeah. It's exciting. It's strange.

I mean, most people that most actors that live here in L. A. and are just dying to have their poster all over town, and you're like, "Ah, I'm just gonna go off to the UK and I'll come and I'll see it whenever I show up." It's strange.

I did a show last year and it was the first billboard experience I've ever had. And, um, the show came on whilst we were shooting, so I didn't see any of the billboards in person. I just kept getting photos from friends and stuff. And all I really wanted to do was was be here and stand underneath one and go like that.

You can do it while you're here.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

On your way back to the airport. Absolutely. We'll make sure, I'll take it if you want.

Yeah, please, please do. Yeah.

Are your mom and dad so proud?

Yeah, quietly proud. My mom and dad are quietly proud people.

See, I'm Canadian and I totally get that sort of like more low-key thing.

Yeah, much more low-key. They're not like American parents, whoa. They're not crazy out. There's no pom-poms or anything. They're just, uh, they're just quietly, yeah, it's just, I think it's a bit surreal for them because they haven't been over here either, so it's like, I'll show them a photo of a billboard and they'd be like, "Oh, it's great." They're They're inwardly celebrating, but they just don't show it.

Yeah, I think my my mom and dad have always been like that and they've always been quietly, like, um, enthusiastic about what I do, but like, when I say quietly, I mean really quietly. Also, no holding back on whether they think something's awful.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. That's totally a Canadian thing too.

Yeah, that's like That's fair game. They never think anything you do is awful, right? You're their child.

You haven't seen everything I've done, so.

Okay, you don't you only show them certain things.

Yeah, exactly.

People like to tell you their deepest darkest secrets. You can draw out people's deepest desires. So on the flip side, I want to know one deep dark secret.

Of mine?

One one desire. Like, a

Oh, desire? Yeah. Uh Oh, God, tell me that one. I know it's in there. No, I mean,

You're going red. You're teasing me.

I am going red cuz I can't think of anything. Don't try to avoid the question. Damn. Uh, my deepest darkest desire. I get to do a lot of fun stuff in my life, so Yeah.

What haven't you done though that you want to do?

A naked bungee jump.

Oh my gosh. Nobody would oppose to that.

No. There you go. Or it could be quite painful though. Depending on where they where they harness you. Yeah. Yeah.

Have you bungee jumped before? Are you an extremist?

No.

Okay. Who would you like to know secrets from? Is there one person that if you could sort of have them confess to you?

I I, well, politicians.

Yes.

Like, I'd love to bring the deep dark desires out of politicians, for sure. I want to know what Obama is thinking at this point.

I would like to know what Obama's thinking about certain certain Republican candidates.

Right. He's probably like, first of all, he's exhausted and just wants to go to He looks knackered. He looks, I mean, let's be fair, he looks absolutely shattered compared to when he first entered office. I know. The poor guy's going great. I just feel so sorry for him. The funny thing is about America is that you come to America and the whole presidential thing's happening and, uh, you get a real sense of America's view of it. But in terms of foreign policy and the way America's viewed by the rest of the world, I think Obama has been nothing but good news.

So you went to the Royal Scottish Academy Academy of Music and Drama.

of music and drama. Thank you. Mhm.

With James McAvoy. McAvoy? Yes. And you guys did a pantomime.

We did. That was my first ever.

A Beauty and the Beast.

professional gig. Yeah, it was, uh, doing Beauty and the Beast at Kirkcaldy.

Well, I think I can do a little pantomime. Come on. If you will do it, I will do it. Oh, okay. But you mean like just the hand part, right?

Well, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. What are we talking about here? Like, I'm thinking like

No, that's not pantomime.

What is it? That's mime.

Oh. What's pantomime?

Pan You know what pantomime? So pantomime's like Pantomime's like this sort of, um, That's That's this, yeah, that's pantomime. Putting your pants on and miming that.

But hold on, so you did pantomime, but you played Beauty and the Beast.

Yes. No, I played the Beast.

So, but how does it go? Like I'm confused.

There's like dances and, uh, you know, lots of drama.

You want to show? Because I'm still not getting it. I'm still not getting it.

No, it's just like there are stock sentences that come into all of these things that are right, interactive with the audience.

So there's one lady on the show who's your like co-star who's sort of impervious to your charms. Yes. She's sort of the only one that is not charmed by you. Have you ever found yourself in that situation in life?

I my my school days were sort of a series of frustrations about not like landing the girl that I wanted to be with. You didn't Do you guys call it pulling? Pulling. I didn't pull I didn't pull the bird that I wanted to.

Bird? Oh, I know that one. I love that. You call them birds.

No, I kind of like I had a lot of unrequited loves when I was younger. Um, and it was always like their moms really wanted me to get together with the girls. So then it was never going to happen cuz they were like, they're never going to do what their mother tells them to do. I was the opposite of the bad boy. Right. So it's quite nice now that I'm playing

To play Lucifer.

the ultimate bad boy and I can sort of turn around to them and go, "See, your mom was wrong." Um, so yeah, no, school was quite frustrating for me. My charms hadn't developed, should we say. I call myself a late bloomer all the time.

I think it's good. I think it's good. So how did you sort of overcome that? Was it through acting or was it through

I, well, I think one of my main reasons for starting acting at the age of 17

To get laid.

Was to get laid. To pull. To pull birds. Was basically because my old English teacher said I'm running the theater studies class for A levels. Um, would you, would you consider coming and, uh, you know, to a couple of sessions of it because I've got 12 girls and one boy and I need some more boys. And I went, just Let's just take that back a second. You got how many girls? And I I'm in. So I basically started going for that reason and then fell in love with acting, not girls. So, um, that's that's how it all started really.

Well, both.

Well, but yeah, both. But it's true that doing drama and stuff, you do develop your, um, your confidence about, you know, the opposite sex and, uh, and just your confidence in yourself and stuff. So that was that was a big a big step forward for me.

And last but not least, what would you sell your soul to the devil for?

Oh, goodness me. World peace.

Good answer. I'll leave it at that. Should we go out with a mime? Thank you for coming in.

Thanks.

Always a pleasure. Watch Lucifer. Oh, I'll put that back up.