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Katherine Heigl & Ben Barnes on Guitar Lessons for 'Jackie Ryan'

Katherine Heigl & Ben Barnes on Guitar Lessons for 'Jackie Ryan'

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The YH Studio welcomes Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes, who drop by to scoop us on their romantic drama 'Jackie Kelley' and the intensive guitar lessons they had to undergo for their roles. They also discuss what real-life musicians they would love to play in a biopic!

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Young Hollywood

Hey it's a great I've heard it loads.

Young Hollywood

I've heard you say all the time.

Young Hollywood

Eyes like saucepans.

Young Hollywood

Legs, legs like Forks.

Young Hollywood

You Superman yourself on your belly and then you kind of roll over.

Ben Barnes

And the train wasn't even moving.

Katherine Heigl

Not when I practiced it, but when we did it, it was.

Young Hollywood

I'm Oliver Trevena here on the Young Hollywood Sofa with Ben Barnes and Catherine Haig.

Young Hollywood

How are you?

Katherine Heigl

Good.

Ben Barnes

How are you?

Young Hollywood

I'm good, I'm good.

Young Hollywood

You were both just saying that you dressed yourself for this, which is amazing.

Young Hollywood

This is very well done.

Katherine Heigl

No, not that I didn't do my own shoes, obviously, but I had to do your shoes and you had to do Catherine's, you were just saying.

Young Hollywood

Miss Haig.

Katherine Heigl

For a minute I was like, really you didn't do up your own shoes?

Katherine Heigl

He, that was in his contract.

Katherine Heigl

He had velcro on set.

Katherine Heigl

That's how it was.

Ben Barnes

Just practicing my acting.

Young Hollywood

Really good.

Katherine Heigl

Really good, yeah.

Ben Barnes

Really good.

Katherine Heigl

He's lying.

Ben Barnes

Really good.

Katherine Heigl

I'm so distracted, I can't stop playing with this dog.

Young Hollywood

Good acting.

Ben Barnes

The Jackie Ryan is really that was my last size shoe in.

Ben Barnes

It was great.

Ben Barnes

It was great.

Ben Barnes

Oh, you said good acting so I figured I'd jump on it right now.

Ben Barnes

You you teed it up, I took it then.

Ben Barnes

Perfect, perfect pardon me.

Young Hollywood

What's the plan?

Young Hollywood

But um, was it good acting because your guitar playing is so impressive?

Young Hollywood

Is that, did you know how to do this before?

Ben Barnes

No.

Young Hollywood

You didn't, you really didn't.

Ben Barnes

No, I really didn't.

Ben Barnes

I really didn't.

Ben Barnes

I had I had about two and a half months of guitar lessons with actually here in Los Angeles and they were giving me these exercises and my fingers were like bleeding, like a Bryan Adams song and and I was like watching TV playing these finger picking exercises and It's not all me in the film, I hasten to add.

Ben Barnes

The singing is all me but the some of the guitar is doubled because Right.

Katherine Heigl

Well, I've actually just started guitar lessons.

Katherine Heigl

It's horrendous.

Young Hollywood

Did you?

Katherine Heigl

Yeah, like I was like, this is exciting.

Katherine Heigl

And I'm like, no, this is hard.

Katherine Heigl

Yeah.

Katherine Heigl

It hurts your fingers.

Katherine Heigl

I mean, that was my whole thing is that I my husband had me practicing and practicing and I was like, I can't put I can't put my fingers down on the strings anymore, it hurts so bad but he powered through all that.

Young Hollywood

Since you've started though, don't have you noticed everyone's brilliant at the guitar, everyone else.

Katherine Heigl

Well that's why the movie just put me off completely.

Katherine Heigl

I was like, I'm giving up.

Katherine Heigl

I'm gonna piano.

Katherine Heigl

Let's get a piano.

Katherine Heigl

Let's get a piano.

Katherine Heigl

Drums.

Katherine Heigl

Drums.

Katherine Heigl

Anything.

Katherine Heigl

Anything.

Katherine Heigl

'Cause I'm never gonna get to that level.

Young Hollywood

Um, and you had you had played guitar before or So you were No, no.

Katherine Heigl

I hadn't and thankfully Yeah, and he's a really, I mean, he's put his 10,000 hours in.

Katherine Heigl

He's been playing since he was like eight or something.

Katherine Heigl

So um, he helped me just with, you know, a few tips, tricks and techniques.

Katherine Heigl

But thankfully I didn't really have to play that much.

Katherine Heigl

It was just sort of implied that like there was a time when she could post drum a bit.

Ben Barnes

Right.

Ben Barnes

Joel is one of those guys who can pick up a guitar and listen to a song on the radio and then just play along by by like 30 seconds in.

Katherine Heigl

Don't like him.

Katherine Heigl

Heart.

Katherine Heigl

Don't like him.

Ben Barnes

Don't like him.

Katherine Heigl

Don't like him.

Katherine Heigl

I'm so distracted.

Katherine Heigl

Don't like him.

Young Hollywood

But you are both singing very well.

Young Hollywood

And that is is is you.

Young Hollywood

Yeah.

Young Hollywood

That's actually That's actually you.

Young Hollywood

And that you could sing before.

Young Hollywood

You didn't get training or No.

Katherine Heigl

No.

Katherine Heigl

I mean, I I listened to a lot of um, the songs that are sung.

Katherine Heigl

Most of them are originals from the 20s, 30s like like some of them are a bit country.

Katherine Heigl

And I was so I was listening to a lot of the recordings of those kind of songs and listening to Eydie Gorme and all these like great old school singers singing.

Katherine Heigl

So trying to make my voice sound a little bit like something a bit different.

Katherine Heigl

So finding a voice for the character that isn't really my single voice.

Katherine Heigl

But it was I loved it.

Katherine Heigl

I as you can tell I mean, eyes go big.

Katherine Heigl

Somebody asked me about the music, I get all saucepans in the eyes like.

Young Hollywood

Saucepan.

Katherine Heigl

Eyes go big like saucepans.

Young Hollywood

Right.

Young Hollywood

Got you.

Young Hollywood

Got you.

Ben Barnes

I was wondering now.

Young Hollywood

Saucepan.

Katherine Heigl

Saucepan.

Ben Barnes

Saucepan.

Katherine Heigl

My eyes go big like.

Ben Barnes

You knew what we were saying.

Young Hollywood

Is that not is that not a phrase?

Ben Barnes

I've never heard it.

Katherine Heigl

I've never heard it.

Ben Barnes

No.

Katherine Heigl

No.

Ben Barnes

I would I would try and Yes, no, never heard of it.

Ben Barnes

No.

Katherine Heigl

It's usually saucers.

Young Hollywood

Saucers.

Young Hollywood

Right?

Young Hollywood

Am I wrong?

Katherine Heigl

That sounds better.

Ben Barnes

Saucepan.

Katherine Heigl

I like saucepans.

Katherine Heigl

I'm going with saucepans.

Young Hollywood

If it's keeper, let's keep it.

Young Hollywood

Let's roll with it.

Young Hollywood

It's fine.

Young Hollywood

It's fine.

Young Hollywood

Start it out, yeah.

Young Hollywood

But this is lovely This lovely kind of romance.

Ben Barnes

It is a British thing.

Young Hollywood

It's a British thing.

Ben Barnes

I've heard it loads.

Ben Barnes

I've heard you say all the time.

Ben Barnes

Eyes like saucepans.

Ben Barnes

Legs, legs like.

Katherine Heigl

No idea.

Ben Barnes

No idea.

Katherine Heigl

Different upbringing, clearly.

Ben Barnes

But I will make good music on there.

Young Hollywood

I know you will.

Young Hollywood

We can make The lovely movie, it's got the romance in there, but it's got the struggles, you know, you both got your own stuff going on as well.

Young Hollywood

Single mom.

Katherine Heigl

Right.

Katherine Heigl

And I think, you know, you sort of find her at the beginning of the film before she meets him, in just this sort of dire straits.

Katherine Heigl

I mean, she's had to move back home to her hometown that she's sort of desperately wanted to leave.

Katherine Heigl

Move back in with her mother, dragging her eight-year-old with her, and, you know, afraid, she's afraid and anxious and and not sure what's going to happen next and if she even has the means to get out of a toxic relationship and get out of a toxic life that she no longer wants to live.

Katherine Heigl

And then she meets this perfect guy.

Katherine Heigl

This perfect guy who, you know, I think the thing that he sort of gives her is courage and faith that it will that she can and she will and it will work out.

Katherine Heigl

So she does.

Young Hollywood

There's lovely.

Young Hollywood

Yeah.

Young Hollywood

Not only, not only is he a handsome guy who can play the guitar, Ben, at times, it's just when you think it can't get any better, he fixes the roof as well.

Ben Barnes

Yeah.

Ben Barnes

Actually that was I was like, Where else can we go?

Ben Barnes

That was actually something that I brought up with the director.

Ben Barnes

I was like, so, so, so he's a musician and you've got at one point I I hold a ladder like on my shoulder and then later on I'm like holding wood on the other like to fix the roof on the other shoulder.

Ben Barnes

And I'm like sort of yes ma'am and no ma'am and being polite to the mum and taking the rubbish out.

Ben Barnes

I'm like, you are using pulling out all the tricks to help me look like sort of chivalrous and manly here.

Ben Barnes

Like, I'm pretty impressive, huh?

Ben Barnes

Yeah, let's go to the hardware shop.

Ben Barnes

I'll get you what you need.

Ben Barnes

It's just kind of like all the tricks to make me look kind of, you know.

Katherine Heigl

It's kind of a movie that you don't want to watch with your other half if you're a guy because they're just gonna look at you and say, See?

Katherine Heigl

See, he does that.

Katherine Heigl

Why can't you?

Katherine Heigl

There are men.

Katherine Heigl

There are men out there who will help.

Ben Barnes

Yeah, I wouldn't I do not know how to fix a roof in real life.

Ben Barnes

There we go.

Ben Barnes

I've said it.

Katherine Heigl

I'm glad he doesn't.

Katherine Heigl

He doesn't.

Katherine Heigl

He's not as attractive anymore.

Katherine Heigl

Can't fix a roof.

Katherine Heigl

Can't play the guitar.

Katherine Heigl

He's a fraud.

Katherine Heigl

It's the magic ruined.

Young Hollywood

You really are an amazing actor.

Young Hollywood

See, we brought it all back to the beginning.

Ben Barnes

Yeah.

Katherine Heigl

Yeah.

Ben Barnes

Yes.

Katherine Heigl

Here we go.

Young Hollywood

It is very The acting was.

Young Hollywood

The acting was very good.

Katherine Heigl

Full circle.

Ben Barnes

Yes.

Young Hollywood

Um, on the music side, if you could play any musician's life story as an actor, if you could be in any movie of that any musician, who would it be?

Ben Barnes

Jamie Fox already did Ray Charles.

Young Hollywood

I thought he was gonna say Jamie Fox.

Ben Barnes

Yeah, yeah.

Ben Barnes

I think they're already doing Freddie Mercury as well because that that would be cool.

Young Hollywood

They are, but that would be That would be That would be the strongest one.

Young Hollywood

Um, Catherine, anyone that you?

Katherine Heigl

Joan Baez.

Young Hollywood

Okay.

Katherine Heigl

Oh, good.

Katherine Heigl

That'd be cool.

Katherine Heigl

I still listen to her record like so much growing up.

Katherine Heigl

It was literally it was like my parents' record and I would play it over and over.

Katherine Heigl

And now I I have her um album on my iPhone 'cause it's 2015.

Katherine Heigl

She's true.

Katherine Heigl

And um, and I listen to it now and I'm like, do I have any idea what she was singing about when I was 12 years old?

Katherine Heigl

I can't imagine, but I just love her voice.

Katherine Heigl

It's so pretty and her, you know, the passion that she sings with.

Katherine Heigl

There's not the singing's out there.

Katherine Heigl

The voice is out there.

Katherine Heigl

Everyone's Everyone's out to sing now.

Katherine Heigl

Yeah, but I can't sing like Joan Baez.

Katherine Heigl

This this was a fantasy round, wasn't it?

Katherine Heigl

This was you know, horses could fly and Who knows?

Katherine Heigl

whatever that saying is.

Ben Barnes

I'm doing the sequel to Ray so I don't see why I don't see why you can't do that.

Katherine Heigl

He's doing Ray Charles Charles.

Ben Barnes

Show Jamie Fox what he hasn't got.

Ben Barnes

Just terrible.

Young Hollywood

Um, yes, Jackie and Ryan.

Young Hollywood

Everyone go see.

Young Hollywood

It's such a lovely story as well.

Young Hollywood

It's it's got everything in there, isn't it?

Ben Barnes

Yeah, it's got a lot of soul, a lot of heart, I think.

Ben Barnes

It's uh, you know, it's not your sort of typical uh, romantic Right.

Ben Barnes

film full of cliches.

Ben Barnes

It's actually about, you know, it's actually about two people in their struggles in their own lives and what happens in the in the course of a few days when they meet each other and there's a simplicity to it.

Ben Barnes

And, you know, there is a cool subculture of people who still kind of ride trains and play music and have this very simplistic philosophy to life. And I think that it's, you know, it's it's interesting to see that that culture explored as well. So, I think that it's a bit it's a it's a little bit different, actually. It is very different.

Young Hollywood

Have you ever hopped a train?

Ben Barnes

Uh, for this film, yeah.

Young Hollywood

Uh, you did?

Ben Barnes

Yeah, it was fun. You run along you run alongside it and then you throw your

Young Hollywood

And George just let one go. She really has. By the way. And George. Really has. And George. Continue though.

Ben Barnes

I can't because it wasn't me. I can't because I'm choking on this dog's farts. I wish I could hop a train right now. Um, but you did hop a train. You did hop a train, you're right. Yeah, you sort of you run alongside it and you throw your you throw your take your pack off and you and your guitar and you throw it in. And then then you sort of you Superman yourself on your belly and then you kind of roll over. And the train wasn't even moving. Not when I practiced it, but when we did it, it was.

Young Hollywood

Now I just envision you. This train was just sitting still and you Superman on it.

Ben Barnes

Well, when I practiced it, that was what happened. But nobody filmed it again. So, you gotta keep that the dream alive. Right. Don't all these stunts as well. Yeah. He's perfect. Jackie and Ryan. Don't watch it before we all pass out.

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PEOPLE MENTIONED

  • Katherine Heigl

    Actress promoting 'Jackie & Ryan'

  • Ben Barnes

    Actor promoting 'Jackie & Ryan'

  • Oliver Trevena

    Interviewer on the Young Hollywood Sofa

  • Bryan Adams

    Mentioned in relation to guitar exercises

  • Eydie Gorme

    Singer Ben Barnes listened to for character's voice

  • Jamie Foxx

    Actor mentioned for playing Ray Charles

  • Ray Charles

    Musician whose life story was portrayed by Jamie Foxx

  • Freddie Mercury

    Musician mentioned for a potential biopic role

  • Joan Baez

    Musician Katherine Heigl would like to play in a biopic

FAQ

What movie are Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes promoting?+
Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes are promoting their romantic drama film titled 'Jackie & Ryan'.
Did Katherine Heigl and Ben Barnes know how to play guitar before the film?+
No, neither Katherine Heigl nor Ben Barnes knew how to play guitar before the film; Ben Barnes had about two and a half months of lessons, and Katherine Heigl's character's playing was mostly implied.
Did Ben Barnes do his own singing in 'Jackie & Ryan'?+
Yes, Ben Barnes confirms that all the singing in 'Jackie & Ryan' is his own voice.
What is 'Jackie & Ryan' about?+
'Jackie & Ryan' is a romantic film about two people in their own struggles who meet and connect over a few days, featuring a cool subculture of train riders and musicians.
Which musician would Katherine Heigl like to portray in a biopic?+
Katherine Heigl would like to portray Joan Baez in a biopic, as she grew up listening to her records.
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