She knew she lived just around the corner. I wanted to know her yeah she's making me lose my mind. I didn't know quite what I was chasing.

Yeah, I love this song. Tear Me Up is just an jam. All right, dude. I don't know what you want from me.

So For all the noise and electronic music out there. It's different than that noise. We're a we're a rock band with an identity crisis. We got guitars and guitar pedals and keyboards and stuff but like you know at the end of the day it's like there's an electronic aspect to it but you know we we both came from like

He's starving. He's like picking the bread off the thing. Yeah, dude. You help this man out, get him some food. I like your glasses too. Those are cool.

Thanks man.

Hey real glasses are they?

Yeah I'm I'm

You're blind.

Blind as a bat, man. You think that was a thing in like the 80s? Do you think people ever wore glasses without real glasses in them prior to like 2010?

I I would hope so. I tried that out. Yeah. Oracle, those are fake for sure, right? I'm guessing. I don't know. How old were you when you guys first like got introduced to music? Was there a father figure or like a mom or a dad or like

Both my parents are musicians. And so from like a really young age I was just always kind of surrounded by music and I first really fell in love with like Bob Dylan and Elvis Presley when I was really young. Elvis writes some great kind of fun tunes that when like you're a little kid you kind of just go like, oh that kind of sounds happy, you know. I think I moved on from the Barney theme song to Elvis.

Your parents influenced you as some good music.

Yeah, they were like stop listening to Barney and get on get on Elvis, you know. We both have a really eclectic music taste, you know, like we both come from musical families. My mom always played the piano. My dad's always singing around the house when I was a kid. Like my stepdad is like an encyclopedia of music. Like knows everything. It's crazy.

And you guys ended up moving to New York, correct?

Separately, yeah. Yeah, we were unaware that we were each there, you know. We ran into each other in a Lowe's parking lot.

Hey.

Hey. When you meet somebody in New York and you're like from your hometown, you're like, hey, what's up? And then we had dinner and we were chatting and we both kind of like, we needed a bit of creative spice in our lives. So we uh just had a studio session and it was like you know, love it first note. What's whatever and we got

Love at first note. I like that.

bunch of uh cool ideas right away. And at the end we just like we're like let's just do this full-time. Let's quit everything else and do this.

So how'd you guys come up with the name Bob Moses? I mean I I've I've read about it on Google, of course.

We were named after Robert Moses, the 1950s city planner. So he he helped build the city. He like built New York basically like He was sort of a sort of a bad guy. Actually, not sort of, he was a bad guy. Super corrupt.

Did you have a song about him?

No. We don't love him that much. When we were working on our sound like trying to find our a sound to like have as our own, we didn't really know what what we wanted our aesthetic to be per se. When we started doing some work with these guys, Frank and Tony, they had their this really kind of quirky throwback New York aesthetic with sort of like really granular artwork and they wanted all the acts on the label to kind of be like a sort of quip on something New York, you know, like so Francis I think suggested Bob Moses and we were like, okay, yeah, cool and he sort of told us about Bob Moses and what it meant and all that stuff. Sure, let's just do that. Yeah.

You knew electronic music was the path.

Well, yeah, I mean we knew like we kind of wanted to do something with really cool production but also like good pop songs. Yeah. And that and then there was about a eight month to a year long process of like trying to find our specific sound. We kind of would produce a whole bunch of stuff like that and like this and all over the place.

So are you guys into your gear and into your stuff that you you work with?

Yeah, Our motto is always been get a few things and learn them really, really, really well. Instead of getting like a ton of stuff. Like, you know, you can take a synth and you can just you can mess with it and do the sound you want. Dive into a synth and figure out what that synth's about and what it can do for you. In a year, it'll it'll do 10 times more than what you think it can and like, you know, if you learn if you actually spend the time to really program and get your hands dirty instead of just being like, oh, I don't like the presets and I'm on to the next one. With the gear thing like there's so much like you just said, there's so much technology. Everybody's got access now to the same gear. It's not so much about what gear. It's like how you use it, you know. So you kind of have to like be a little bit disciplined with yourself about learning one thing and then you know, before you move on to the next one.

Hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. Happy birthday.

Thanks, man. Yeah.

That's cool. You get to celebrate your birthday and then perform tonight?

Yeah. We've been uh I think the last two days is some of the hardest we've ever worked. Show, show, show, show, interview, interview, interview. It's like you got the gift you got your dream came true. You got the gift of success and now you have to work like a dog on your birthday. It's kind of funny but it's good. I I got the gift of having to spend every minute with this guy. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. It's a real gift.

Is that a chocolate candle though?

No.

Oh, did he say it was a chocolate candle? How about how about this? How about I bite the candle and I'll tell you?

Go for it if you want. No chocolate candle. That's definitely waxed. I knew that. I just wanted to make you eat the candle.